23 comments

  • oefrha 1 hour ago
    This is quite out of character for a lawn mower; lawn mowers shouldn't care.
  • Alifatisk 1 hour ago
    Is the country falling apart? So many extreme events is happening over there.
    • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1 hour ago
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      • Alifatisk 1 hour ago
        Doesn’t more and more countries fall into the enemies category as Trump is ruining international relationships?
        • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1 hour ago
          This is just changing goal posts but that aside, Trump got a standing ovation at Davos and got a deal for Greenland. Everything prior to that was a performance. One day he says British troops weren't on the front line in Afghanistan, the next day he says they are the greatest warriors of all time besides the US. He is incredibly good at manipulating public perception to change opinions and get what he wants. What appears to you as chaos or "making enemies" to him is just business as usual.
          • notamario 1 hour ago
            What did he get out of the Greenland deal that the US didn’t have Jan 19, 2025?
            • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1 hour ago
              I am not the NATO chief.
              • koonsolo 26 minutes ago
                Then tell us what powers does the Dutch NATO chief has to make a deal in name of Greenland and Denmark.

                Trump got empty hands, he got totally played by the nice words of Rutte.

                Edit: Your conversation is really mind boggling:

                "Trump got a great deal on Greenland!"

                "What deal?"

                "How would I know?!?!?!"

                • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 7 minutes ago
                  It is not mind boggling if you don't manipulate quotes to fit for your narrative.
          • Martinussen 40 minutes ago
            I think you are heavily underestimating the level of contempt he has built towards Americans and the US in the last month or two. I don't think Europeans, certainly not Scandinavians, will forget this for decades. This isn't like some random normal boycott-type movement that goes viral, I legitimately think Americans are teetering on being persona non grata as a people unless they prove they've divorced themselves from the mess at home.

            It might be manipulating people at home, but you're closer (still not close, obviously) to Russia than Sweden as far as a trustworthy business partner or ally now. We're suddenly not making any long term plans that rely on America or American companies where it's avoidable, I don't know if you understand how big of a shift that is.

          • WickyNilliams 1 hour ago
            > He is incredibly good at manipulating public perception to change opinions and get what he wants

            Sorry but you are suffering from some kind of delusion here. He's not manipulating public perception in any way that is beneficial to him or the US. He's crashing his own public perception (which was already in the gutter to all but the sycophants and blind loyalists) and taking the US' reputation with him

            • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 47 minutes ago
              This is the one thing you shouldn't deny especially if you don't like Trump.

              “There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.” ― Lao Tzu

              • WickyNilliams 35 minutes ago
                Oh I don't underestimate him. It's been obvious he's dangerous from day 1. But being dangerous does not preclude being (seen to be) a fool.
          • simgt 1 hour ago
            > Trump got a standing ovation at Davos

            Let's run the clap-o-meter.

            - Trump: https://www.youtube.com/live/qo2-q4AFh_g?si=1dLbyqmpVH39KtY1...

            - Carney: https://youtu.be/CQOr9FcSf-M?si=vb4Z9fSOewRyV_7S&t=1130

          • mda 1 hour ago
            He is not good at manipulating the public, almost everyone knows what he actually is (there is not much to know at this point anyway). They are not applauding him, they do it because they need US economy to keep things afloat they smile and shake hands because of that. He could be just saying random words or saying only profanities from start to finish, the outcome would be the same, they would still give a standing ovation with eyes rolling.
          • awesome_dude 1 hour ago
            Wait, everything ELSE was a "performance" but a (claimed) standing ovation was the real deal...?
          • ilogik 1 hour ago
            And all the people that died because of him, is that intended?
            • hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1 hour ago
              Who are all the people? Unfortunately for Trump, he doesn't control every trigger that gets pulled but now we are seeing de-escalation.
            • neonsunset 1 hour ago
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          • watwut 1 hour ago
            Trump did not got standing ovation, Carney got ovation. Trumps entourage tried to invoke standing ovation, but failed.

            People were leaving and stopped paying attention during Trump speech. It was just ... bad.

          • darig 1 hour ago
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  • iinnPP 1 hour ago
    This isn't very compelling. It's 2 anecdotes and a pretty damning final paragraph. Is there any more reliable data?
    • peyton 1 hour ago
      I believe the headline is missing a “mistakenly”. Very strange article given the headline.
    • SilverElfin 1 hour ago
      Data? No. None of these companies are making their data freely available for analysis or being transparent about how their algorithms work. People have complained for a while that Twitter / X seems to suppress the visibility and reach of profiles or posts that disagree with Musk’s views. The recent open sourcing of their algorithm is meaningless since there’s no evidence of what they actually have in production or what data / configuration is used with it.

      So the best we can do is anecdotal examples. And it’s also obvious that Trump avoided banning TikTok for months, illegally, because he wanted to have another platform serve as a mouthpiece. He now has that by forcing a sale of TikTok to his friend, Larry Ellison.

  • macshaggy 38 minutes ago
    Celebrities need to stop giving their sht to these SM companies and used Federated social media. So they can own their product and not have to worry about being censored for being anti-government.

    Which is hilarious sentence now because this government so pro free speech!!! sarcasm*

    But seriously this is something that if my main gig was to create music or some art form, I wouldn't want to be on a corp run platform. I would want to own it myself and the all that data.

  • akagusu 9 minutes ago
    Why does everything ICE related gets flagged on HN?
    • saubeidl 6 minutes ago
      Pro-Regime enforcers exist in the digital world as well.

      21st century brownshirts, if you will.

  • wormpilled 1 hour ago
    Makes sense since Oracle now has complete control of it.
  • baxtr 1 hour ago
    I have a bit of experience with video platforms.

    It’s really hard to say which video will work or not. What people react to and what not.

    All I’m saying is that this could also potentially be explained by "The Algorithm" per se.

    • mrtksn 1 hour ago
      There’s lots of myths in social media, some weeks ago I kept seeing people on TikTok claiming that if you put some keyword in you profile(I think it was “Oracle”) or some of your post you will start seeing the protest again because the algorithm will “reset”. I assumed that someone was trying to farm accounts interested in politics or maybe indeed the algorithm steers by the introduction of the new for the account word.

      Anyway, considering that the purchase of the American TikTok was done with a purpose and there is documented collusion between the involved tech Billionaires and the political class behind the street executions in American cities that drive those protests, I wouldn’t be surprised that they are actually throttling this time.

    • scotty79 1 hour ago
      Support for ICE is in minority (although a large one). I don't think algorithm would suppress negative opinions on it, especially among viewership of celebrities that don't appeal to the right side of political spectrum.
      • ap99 1 hour ago
        You should qualify your statement with "amongst the few people I talk to and the narrow spectrum of media I consume."

        Also, do you mean minority of the total US population or minority of the voting population?

        For one reference point I fully support ICE. And I think it's wild you have local and state politicians encouraging actions against federal agents who are enforcing federal law.

  • docdeek 1 hour ago
    That’s not a very convincing article. One person leaving TikTok claiming she was silenced, and another where a claim of silencing is made but, within 24 hours, the ‘silenced’ video "has more than 220,000 views and over 70,000 likes”. Perhaps there is some silencing going on, but it doesn’t appear that there is much evidence of it in this particular article.
  • niemandhier 1 hour ago
    In transparency will do this.

    No one can know what TikTok censors or penalizes in its algorithms. All other social media platforms are equally intransparent, what is new is that TikTok is not American.

  • rsynnott 1 hour ago
    Celebrities should consider maybe not using social media things controlled by the regime? Like, other social media is available.
    • vanviegen 1 hour ago
      > Like, other social media is available.

      Social media that actually have a large audience and that cannot be easily pressured by the US government?

    • Maken 1 hour ago
      This specific social media was not controlled by the regime, and they are taking every step necessary to correct that.
  • misja111 1 hour ago
    > according to TechCrunch, this language has been included in the privacy policy since Aug. 2024, and wasn’t changed in response to the Trump administration’s latest escalation of immigration enforcement, and is “primarily there to comply with state privacy laws like California’s Consumer Privacy Act.”

    This is the problem with any kind of censoring media. The initial intentions of those policies might have been good, but these kind of policies can so easily be abused for malign intentions.

  • stanislavb 1 hour ago
    Get used to it. Both TikTok and X(twitter) have been used and will be used to manipulate the public opinion in favour of Trump. I'm aware that I can't prove it; however, this explains how Trump won, and how he will win again - manipulating the zombies.
  • b65e8bee43c2ed0 1 hour ago
    those who were OK with malinformation being suppressed by every platform for two years (from 2020-02 to 2022-02) should be OK with this as well.
  • self_awareness 1 hour ago
    This is so American.

    They raise alarms because they have low TikTok view counters. But mass killings of Iranian protesters is Iran's own business.

  • krautburglar 1 hour ago
    That a handful of private companies (of which, Ellison has big investments in several) have cornered the market on NAND and DRAM -- with some sources saying that these reservations extend into 2029 -- should be far more concerning. They're sprinting toward super-intelligence, while potential competitors can't even buy equipment. Both pro-immigrant and anti-immigrant arguments will seem fatuous when we are all slaves.
  • bjourne 1 hour ago
    The whole point of the forced sale of TikTok was for the American-Israeli hegemony to exert control over the narrative of the platform. And now it is doing exactly that. Color me surprised.
  • blell 1 hour ago
    Wait until you try to criticise Israel.
  • jauntywundrkind 1 hour ago
    pretty impressive how quickly Ellisons managed to make this whole situation suck and reek badly. they'll turn down the heat & stuff the frog back in the pot, then crank the heat up a bit slower this time, but there is just going to be such endless utterly preposterous censorship and algorithmic biasing for the right wing & ultra capitalist agenda, on and on now.

    incredible beyond words that this was a unanimous decision by the supreme court. letting the us government set up whatever arraigned marriage it felt like for buying a social network is some wild meddling with businesses. and here we are, with the ultra capitalists doing exactly what they want to with one of the most popular social networks.

    excellent write up for this absolute madness of a court decision, TikTok v. Garland and the First Amendment Anticanon by Evelyn Douek, https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6118706

    • 0x3f 1 hour ago
      Capitalism is when bad things happen. And the more badder they are the more capitalism it is!
      • tormeh 1 hour ago
        I don't think the parent said it was. This is clearly closer to mercantilism, given the degree of government involvement.
        • 0x3f 1 hour ago
          They've claimed this is the result of or at the behest of 'ultra capitalism'. I don't even mind hyperbole--call it fascism if you want--but at least use the dimensionally-correct terms. This is like when people call everything 'neoliberal'.
      • keybored 1 hour ago
        This was the logic the West used throughout the life of the Soviet Union but for [Cc]ommunism.
        • 0x3f 1 hour ago
          Arguably people still do this with 'socialism'. Calling everything communism is now a bit _too_ cliche.
      • BigglesB 1 hour ago
        I’m reading “ultra-capitalists” here as “those that control an extreme proportion of capital” rather than “those who believe really strongly in capitalism as a system”, though tbf that venn diagram may well be a donut…
        • 0x3f 1 hour ago
          Technically, Venn Diagrams don't show _degree_ of overlap :)

          Although re your actual point: the current admin only gifts things like this to a chosen few; a small subset of those with extreme capital. So it seems much more appropriate to call it cronyism, or some such thing, rather than capitalism in the sense of merely controlling capital.

      • scotty79 1 hour ago
        I recently saw an interesting explanation. The point was, that capitalism is not (just) an economical system. It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. If you take this stance, capitalism is to blame for all the good and bad things that happen in the capitalist country. Democracy is just the way how capital rules.
        • 0x3f 1 hour ago
          Aren't all country-scale (economic, governance, etc.) systems also 'systems of power'? It's not like the most powerful people of the USSR didn't leverage that system.

          Whatever the rules are, people end up adapting to and gaming them to entrench and grow their own position, typically at the expense of everyone else.

        • keybored 1 hour ago
          > It's a system of power in which capital can (and almost always does) overrule everything else. ... Democracy is just the way how capital rules.

          That’s a contradiction.

          • scotty79 35 minutes ago
            Depends on how you understand democracy.

            It's a contradiction only if you understand democracy as a theoretical ideal. Practical democracies, as implemented in western countries, in recent decades proven themselves to be completely controllable by capital, both the democratic elites and democratic masses.

            I think we should rather go with practical outcome not the stated theoretical ideas. It's also a good way of evaluating communism and probably other systems.

  • rvnx 1 hour ago
    Happening because TikTok is under US laws. Use https://www.douyin.com/ then.

    And if they wouldn’t, they would be blocked or prevented of doing business in the US.

    • SanjayMehta 1 hour ago
      Laws? Rules based order.
    • saubeidl 1 hour ago
      US laws, hmm.

      Wasn't there something about an amendment to their constitution? I believe it might've even been the first? Something about freedom of speech?

      Maybe I'm just misremembering, but I could've sworn conservatives kept harping on about it.

      • defrost 1 hour ago
        The Constitution is silent on the matter of the cutting room floor and Ellison lawnmowers.

        It only restricts the Federal government (later extended to state governments IIRC?)

        This is one of many reasons Federal government is now partnered with private business.

      • 0xy 1 hour ago
        Did you have the same concerns when Biden's DoJ was colluding with social media to censor narratives they didn't like politically?

        https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admi...

      • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
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        • 0x3f 1 hour ago
          Generally speaking, threats and calls to violence are legal. Only a subset are illegal.
          • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
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            • 0x3f 1 hour ago
              Possibly the police will come bother you, but you're not being convicted.
            • SilverElfin 1 hour ago
              You should use Google and try to understand what the person you’re replying to is saying. Because they’re correct and there’s a nuance to it under the law.
  • pavlov 1 hour ago
    Ellison’s Murdoch killer flexing its muscles for a mild warmup.

    They got Paramount and CBS and TikTok, are allied with Twitter, and still have a chance of grabbing Warner.

    I don’t think American billionaires ever particularly liked Murdoch, an Australian, controlling so much of the media environment in their country. Maybe they’ll make an offer for Fox News that the Murdoch heirs can’t refuse.

  • gadders 1 hour ago
    Maybe no-one is interested in celebrities virtual signalling any more?
    • jesseendahl 1 hour ago
      Finneas (Billie Eilish's brother) isn't one for virtue signaling from what I've seen over the years from his posts. He keeps it very real and down to earth as far as celebrities go.
      • callamdelaney 1 hour ago
        He's not a celebrity then is he, his sister is. And if a video is being poorly received it'll be not pushed by the algorithm, irrelevant of what your other posts are, so difficult to see the connection you're drawing.
    • gambiting 1 hour ago
      Since when is speaking out against fascism virtue signalling? Like, how bad does it have to get before it's just speaking out against the attrocities happening around us and not virtue signalling? Or are celebrities just flat out not allowed to do it?
      • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
        >Since when is speaking out against fascism virtue signalling?

        Because if it were actual fascism, like the Hitler/Mussolini kind, you'd be arrest/dead the moment you spoke anything against it.

        If you can freely call your leaders fascists for years, then it's not actual fascism.

        • rsynnott 1 hour ago
          > Because if it were actual fascism, like the Hitler/Mussolini kind, you'd be arrest/dead the moment you spoke anything against it.

          This is... a pretty confused view of history, really. Hitler became Chancellor in 1933, and consolidated power over the next year. At this point there was a lot of criticism of the regime, both internal and external. Things got rapidly worse after, of course, but there certainly was a period where the Nazis were in power but that there was public criticism.

          Even as late as 1938, there was significant public discontent RE Kristallnacht in particular.

          • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
            >but that there was public criticism

            Every political party had public criticism before they could gain absolute power to silence that criticism.

            • saubeidl 7 minutes ago
              Exactly. You're disproving your own argument now.
        • chimprich 1 hour ago
          > Because if it were actual fascism, like the Hitler/Mussolini kind, you'd be arrest/dead the moment you spoke anything against it.

          It looks like you have paramilitaries roaming your streets - not wearing ID or proper uniforms, covering their faces to avoid identification, not answering to usual democratic controls - executing protestors.

          In the latest incident, they seemed to be beating and spraying a woman with a chemical agent for filming them, and then executing a bystander who tried to help her. The regime then tried to deny reality and falsely claim that they'd attacked said paramilitary operatives.

          In any Western democracy (and I'm not sure if the US is currently part of that category) there would be a public investigation, but they seem to have been squirrelled away and the politicians who have spoken out about it have been threatened.

          This all seems to be fascistic by any reasonable standard.

          • gadders 1 hour ago
            >>covering their faces to avoid identification

            Covering their faces to avoid doxing and being attacked at their homes.

          • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
            >not wearing ID or proper uniforms

            Really? Is that why they have vests with labels that say "POLICE FEDERAL AGENT" front and back? Maybe literacy is an issue.

            > covering their faces to avoid identification

            Same reason SWAT and special forces covering their faces. Because just like them, ICE arrests and deports violent criminals, cartel members, human traffickers, etc. Dangerous people that could identify their faces and then track down and kill their families in retaliation, exactly what lib-dem ANTIFA & co anarchists would love to do to them if they could see their faces.

            And also then, why are the "protesters" assaulting them covering their faces as well if the good guys are supposed to show their faces and only bad guys cover their faces according to your logic?

            >In any Western democracy (and I'm not sure if the US is currently part of that category) there would be a public investigation

            Public investigations are meaningless now in this specific partisan case since the people have already made up their mind on who's guilty. So if the officer would be publicly investigated and then cleared, them dems would just say it was all rigged anyway.

            • chimprich 57 minutes ago
              > Really? That's why they have vests that say "POLICE FEDERAL AGENT" front and back ?

              The paramilitaries that executed Pretti are all wearing street clothing, and all wearing different clothing. They look like a mob.

              > Dangerous people that could identify their faces and kill their families in retaliation.

              Well that's convenient, because it also allows them to kill protestors or their families without any consequence.

              > Why are the protesters assaulting them covering their faces

              Pretti didn't assault them, and wasn't covering his face. He got executed anyway.

              • joe_mamba 50 minutes ago
                >Pretti are all wearing street clothing, and all wearing different clothing

                On top of which they have matching ICE issued vest with inscriptions.

                >He got executed anyway.

                Yes, accidents like this will happen when you shove law enforcement officers with a gun on you. Similarly, a lot of people also got "executed" by police without even having a gun, but just by simply by being uncooperative and pulling out their wallets from their back pocket with a sudden motion towards them as if they were pulling a gun. That will get you killed.

                There's etiquette when dealing with police that people seem to have forgotten.

                • chimprich 33 minutes ago
                  > On top of which they have matching ICE issued vest with inscriptions.

                  It's a fascist theme to have paramilitaries not wearing uniforms. See for example the mukhabarat in Syria. It makes them more intimidating, because they look undisciplined, and adds confusion to protestors as to whether they are dealing with someone who is part of the legal system. Why on earth would they not be issued with uniforms?

                  > Yes, accidents like this will happen when you shove law enforcement officers with a gun on you.

                  Pretti did not shove any "law enforcement officers". The first physical contact is a shove on Pretti by one of them.

                  BBC did a frame by frame analysis: the first shove happens at approx 1:00 in this video. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/l0057wmt/bbc-verify-an...

                  If you disagree, please provide a source.

                  The first time they seem to be aware that he has a firearm is when they disarm him, and the execution happens after that, so I don't see how that is relevant.

                  • joe_mamba 20 minutes ago
                    >they disarm him, and the execution happens after that,

                    You're leaving the part out where a gunshot is heard right before they "execute" him. The officers with their fingers on the trigger pointed at him during detainment, got scared of that gunshot and jumped on the trigger by accident. It's an unfortunate accident but not an execution. Read up the legal definition of execution. This is not it.

        • curt15 1 hour ago
          Fascism takes hold in stages; Nazi Germany didn't go from 0 to 100 in one day. You have to nip it in the bud before it grows up.

          Right now, ICE goes out of their way to beat and arrest protestors and steal their cameras. They're not yet mowing them down but by that time it would be a little late to do something about their conduct. Remember that the current US president admires how the CCP crushed the student protestors in Tiananmen square with tanks and guns.

          • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
            >You have to nip it in the bud before it grows up.

            Sure, but if you use fascist tactics to fight fascism, are you not a fascist yourself?

            And people conveniently focus only on the symptoms(rise of fascism) but not on the main cause that leads to it.

            Like Hitler didn't just randomly get to power one day out of nowhere because the average German citizen was living such a good life. He was just one of the symptoms to a major problem that the Weimar republic didn't address and instead used fascist tactics to get rid of Hitler before he could gain power, and then guess what happened.

            Similarly, Trump is also only but a symptom to a larger issue. Using fascist tactics to get him out of power, only makes the counter response greeter, and not make the core problem go away.

            • WickyNilliams 39 minutes ago
              What fascist tactics did they use to get rid of Hitler? If you're referring to his time in prison, he was put there because he staged a putsch.

              Beyond that, much of the establishment and industry tried to work with him using a softly, softly approach. They thought they could steer him, temper him, leverage his popularity for their own ends. Of course, that didn't work out for them

              • joe_mamba 15 minutes ago
                >What fascist tactics did they use to get rid of Hitler?

                  November 1921 (Munich): During a speech at an NSDAP rally in a beer hall, an unknown assailant fired shots at Hitler from the crowd amid a melee, but he escaped unharmed. 
                
                  1923 (Thuringia): An unidentified person attempted to shoot Hitler during a rally, but Nazi supporters outnumbered opponents, forcing the attacker to flee. 
                
                  1923 (Memmingen): Another unknown individual tried to assassinate Hitler with a rifle but retreated when confronted by his followers. 
                
                  July 15, 1932 (Munich): An assailant fired shots at Hitler and SA leader Ernst Röhm while they dined at Cafe Heck, but both were unhurt. 
                
                  1932 (Nuremberg): A bomb was planted in the lobby of Hitler's hotel, but it was discovered and removed before detonation. 
                
                  1932 (Berlin and Munich): Two additional attempts occurred, one involving potential poisoning at the Hotel Kaiserhof in Berlin (where Hitler and staff fell ill after a meal, suspected to be deliberate contamination), though details are limited and perpetrators unidentified.
                • WickyNilliams 5 minutes ago
                  Attempted assassinations by unidentified lone wolves, spread out over decades, are not "fascist" tactics. Obviously they are very bad for a political climate, but I think that's stretching the definition beyond any use.

                  You originally implied the Weimar Republic itself used fascistic tactics. But your examples show nothing of the sort (and are obviously just an LLM dump, which disinclines me to continue this conversation)

        • saubeidl 1 hour ago
          Like Alex Pretti?
          • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
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            • saagarjha 1 hour ago
              Maybe we shouldn’t have a system where these happen.
              • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
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                • saubeidl 1 hour ago
                  You think the appropriate punishment for interfering with a simple administrative act is gunshots to the back of the head? Are you even reading what you're saying???
                  • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
                    Police have the right to defend themselves if they fear for their lives. It was terrible accident indeed that could have been voided if he'd not physically interfere or have a gun on him.
                    • saubeidl 1 hour ago
                      Defend themselves from the already pinned down person that never drew a gun by shooting him to the back of the head?

                      Think about what you're saying. You're trying to defend the indefensible.

                      • joe_mamba 7 minutes ago
                        Police heard a gunshot and pulled the trigger by accident. Hence unfortunate accident.
            • saubeidl 1 hour ago
              Shooting somebody that is already constrained is an execution, not an accident.

              It's what fascist regimes do to anyone they deem noncompliant.

              • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
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                • saubeidl 1 hour ago
                  Nobody assaulted anyone. Shooting somebody that is already on the ground in the back of their head is not self defence. ICE is not law enforcement.

                  Impressively, you managed to misrepresent a fact with every single word in your sentence.

        • ErroneousBosh 1 hour ago
          You have government-backed thugs with guns running around murdering people who take photos of them.

          You have something that looks worryingly like the Ceaușescu's Securitate "disappearing" citizens - including a little 5-year-old boy - off the streets.

          Justify that.

          Justify kidnapping a terrified little boy who should be at school with his friends, and locking him up in prison.

          Go on, justify those actions. Let's see if you can.

          • gadders 1 hour ago
            ICE looked after the 5 year old boy after his father ran off and left him.
          • joe_mamba 1 hour ago
            > including a little 5-year-old boy - off the streets.

            YOu're a victim of fake news propaganda if you actually believe and parrot that BS. That 5 year old boy was not "disappeared", but taken by ICE to child protection services facility.

            What were they supposed to do? Abandon him in the middle of the street after his criminal dad ran away from him leaving him behind and his mom wouldn't take him?

            Damned if you do, damned if you don;t.

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  • deanc 2 hours ago
    Poor celebrities. Having their voice stifled by foreign governments on a platform they helped promote.
    • MrGilbert 1 hour ago
      It's their own government, at least for US citizens since TikTok was forced to sell their business in the US.
    • sorbusherra 1 hour ago
      voice stifled by oracle inc you mean?
    • BoredPositron 1 hour ago
      First, they’re screaming OH, THE HUMANITY! over censorship before their favorite puppets take the wheel. Then, they’re the first ones ridiculing anyone else for complaining about the exact same thing.
    • libertine 1 hour ago
      You're missing the point, celebrities just happen to have a huge reach and noticed the reach being cut.

      This probably means everyone else is also getting their reach crippled.

      Remember that even with clear video evidence, the administration lies about the events and tries to spin it as domestic terrorism.

      So imagine what they are doing, and will do, without video evidence.

      This is probably one of the darkest times in America... You have an administration that normalizes lying and violence, and a tens of millions of Americans that are choosing to close their eyes and suspend their morals because they're scared and confused.

    • saubeidl 1 hour ago
      It's being stifled by their own government. US TikTok has been taken over by a government-linked oligarch.