DDoS against Norwegian government IT infrastructure – status

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68 points | by e12e 1 hour ago

8 comments

  • just_some_user 1 hour ago
    The actual interesting part about such an attack is not that something is down, but rather why someone would run it. A lot of DDoS originates from script kiddies, but such attacks are usually very short lived as attacks are expensive. So which actor would actually benefit from downing the Norwegian government?
    • Retr0id 1 hour ago
      DDoS tends to be monetised as DDoS-as-a-service. Taking down "significant" services is good advertising. Either that, or they plan to extort the Norwegian government.
      • just_some_user 1 hour ago
        But for such a "proof of power" a short attack which takes the service down once is enough, long attacks are not so common and actually require some work from the attacker
        • devin 54 minutes ago
          Unless part of the social proof is that mitigation is more difficult.
        • Retr0id 55 minutes ago
          If the attack doesn't last long, bystanders can't know whether it was trivially mitigated by the victim.

          A shorter attack won't make as many news headlines, either.

    • InTheArena 1 hour ago
      What do they benefit from taking down any government, NGO or civic work program? American systems, as well as larger European systems are constantly attacked. I've seen the same traffic. Fire walling off China, North Korea and smaller eastern European countries is a must if you ever plan to expose any internet exposed services.
    • roflmaostc 1 hour ago
      is there actually any source those attacks are really done by "script kiddies"?

      More likely this more politically motivated and backed up by money and more capable groups

    • giwook 1 hour ago
      Probably a country that lost to Norway in the World Cup.
    • esseph 14 minutes ago
      It hasn't been majorly like that in twenty years.

      Botnets are services now, a business. They gain customers by their effectiveness and resilience.

      For $$50-100 you can deny service to a lot of big sites and services.

    • cantalopes 1 hour ago
      Imo russia most likely
    • iwontberude 1 hour ago
      those script kiddies control botnets in foreign countries and use them to attack stuff just bc. its not their compute, so no marginal cost to them
    • tuatoru 1 hour ago
      The UK. It wants to steal Norway's vast stores of electricity.
    • cynicalsecurity 1 hour ago
      Really, you have no one in mind? Someone who is sending hundreds of bombing drones daily to Ukraine, killing civilian population, women and children, and who is eager to send a message to NATO countries any way possible?
      • motbus3 1 hour ago
        That is much less effective than every other manner they tested on the past few years such as shadow fleets, ghost satellites etc.

        Up to the moment it has not been the operation adopted which would make it weird.

        On who would do it then, anyone who benefits from instability. From corporations trying to sell flocked uped sytems, politicians, etc.

        There is one south american country who was attacked exactly this way before their head of the government was kidnapped.

        • cynicalsecurity 30 minutes ago
          You don't understand Kremlin's mentality. Any even little nasty thing they can do to the West makes them giggle like Doctor Evil. "Oh, a NATO country's government infra was not protected from DDoS? Let's have fun, haha!" You are dealing with story book villains. I know, this sounds so ridiculous it's hard to believe someone can actually be like this. But then the reality check hits.
    • aaron695 45 minutes ago
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  • p0w3n3d 1 hour ago
    There has been also DDoS against my friend's employer ISP. He had to work a lot to mitigate. There was a random request before
  • spapas82 44 minutes ago
    Would the attack be successful is the Norwegian government used a way to protect itself against ddos like cloudflare or akamai?
  • leke 1 hour ago
    The bus card ride purchase system was down today in my part of Finland. I wonder if it is related.
  • kachnuv_ocasek 1 hour ago
    Bets on which AI lab it is this time?
  • AtNightWeCode 55 minutes ago
    Many important services with problems. Ouch. My guess is that the root cause is misconfiguration rather than an attack.
  • nubg 1 hour ago
    putler?
    • motbus3 1 hour ago
      Could be, but it does not look like any of the ways they done before. Anyone who benefits from instability would be at win, from internal political competition, foreign companies trying to sell flocked up systems and the list could be huge.

      Not saying it was not who you think it was, Im just saying it does not have enough information yet to be the only explanation or at least the most obvious one.

    • cyanydeez 1 hour ago
      could just be openai.
    • coffinbirth 1 hour ago
      Your comment is dumb and disgusting. You're comparing Putin with Hitler, thereby showing that you don't know that relatives of Putin were killed by Hitler's troops, e.g. his brother during the siege of Leningrad (1+ million civilians killed), his grandmother was killed as a civilian, his uncles perished during frontline service and his father was severely wounded[1].

      By the way, numerous high ranking German politicians regularly also do this kind of comparison, showing the lack of knowledge about the history of their own country. Can anyone show me JUST A SINGLE MEMORIAL in Germany for the 20+ million (lower bound estimate) people killed on the eastern front? Yes, there is one in the heart of Berlin, which the Soviets built in 1945!

      [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Vladimir_Putin

      • CursedSilicon 43 minutes ago
        Whispers

        Hey, hey

        Did you know

        Multiple things can in fact, be bad

        • coffinbirth 39 minutes ago
          I immediately knew that you are an U.S. American, because of you total lack of knowledge about European history. It's always the same old story, Americans and their lack of education about global topics.
          • rcxdude 19 minutes ago
            This is a non-sequitur.
          • matkoniecz 12 minutes ago
            As someone from Poland I want to confirm that multiple things can be in fact bad.

            Being invaded by Nazi Germany and days later by their ally, Russia was example of such case.

            • justsomehnguy 4 minutes ago
              As someone from Poland you are conveniently ignore what your country did years before that.

              -webster.com/dictionary/polonization

              • matkoniecz 0 minutes ago
                At no point I claimed that Poland was land of saints and cuddly bears.

                What you linked does not change at all that being invaded and occupied by Nazi Germany and Soviet Union was absolutely awful.

                (and if you want to start oppression olympics, then yes: what German and Russia did was far worse than Poland did, for that matter what Ukrainian UPA did was far worse than what Poland did)

      • indemnity 52 minutes ago
        Maybe you should stop invading other countries if these comparisons hurt your feelings buddy.
        • coffinbirth 42 minutes ago
          I always find it unbelievable how people do not know or just forget about what happened in the east 85 years ago. Really sad. This is one of the primary reasons why people in the west don't understand why Russia cannot accept Ukraine in NATO. It was NATO that expanded to the east, contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union. Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.
          • antonvs 0 minutes ago
            > Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.

            Russia, as a hostile nation not interested in participating in global peace, doesn’t get to decide such things.

          • anon48293 29 minutes ago
            Ukraine sought NATO membership AFTER Russia attacked in 2014, not before.

            Since you’re such a history buff, what did Russia promise when Ukraine got rid of their nukes?

            • coffinbirth 0 minutes ago
              > Ukraine got rid of their nukes

              Russia is the official successor state of the Soviet Union, the nukes never belonged to Ukraine in the first place.

          • SukadarBukadar 19 minutes ago
            Let me tell you what's actually "really sad": Bucha as a response to sovereign country's attempt to join NATO. Having a hostile country as a neighbour isn't an excuse for starting a war with it.
          • matkoniecz 26 minutes ago
            > what happened in the east 85 years ago

            Russia got attacked by their ally, Nazi Germany. After 87 years ago in 1939 they invaded together Poland.

            > Really sad.

            Yeah, Russia going on to win WW II was quite sad. Admittedly better than Nazis winning but pity they have not both lost.

            > contrary to the agreements after the fall of the Soviet Union

            which supposed agreements? Were they any more binding than Budapest Memorandum?

            > Russia said for decades that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable.

            And Russia in Ukraine is unacceptable for us.

  • roschdal 1 hour ago
    The Internet was supposed to withstand a nuclear attack
    • buildbot 56 minutes ago
      "The internet" is currently fine, besides Norwegian government services.

      Also something designed to withstand something does not imply it survives other somethings.

    • pprotas 1 hour ago
      Guess a nuclear attack would actually lessen the load on the global internet, rather than increase it - like a DDOS would!
    • vee-kay 47 minutes ago
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